Pakistan Downs India's French Rafale Fighter Jets in History's Largest Aerial Battle

Pakistan Air Force (PAF) pilots flying Chinese-made J10C fighter jets shot down at least two Indian Air Force's French-made Rafale jets in history's largest ever aerial battle involving over 100 combat aircraft on both sides, according to multiple media reports. India had 72 warplanes on the attack and Pakistan responded with 42 of its own, according to Pakistani military. The Indian government has not yet acknowledged its losses but senior French and US intelligence officials have confirmed that at least one Indian Rafale jet was shot down by Pakistan on May 7, 2025. Reports of  more Rafale downings are being investigated by western intelligence officials. This marks the first time that the sophisticated French-made warplane has been lost in combat.

Rafale is the most advanced French 4.5 generation fighter plane. Indian Prime Minister Narendra spoke about India's need for Rafale back in 2019 after the last IAF-PAF dogfight and said: "We (Indians) acutely felt the absence of Rafale today.....if we had Rafale today the results would have been very different....desh ka bahut nuksaan hua hai"  Then Mr. Modi proceeded to spend $7.4 billion to purchase 26 Rafale fighter jets from France in the hope of achieving air superiority over Pakistan.  Each Rafale cost Indian taxpayers $288 million. 

Military aviation analysts conclude from the results of the air battle that the Chinese technology is as good, if not better than, the western technology. However, men count as much, if not more than, the machines.  The legendary US Air Force pilot Chuck Yeager called Pakistan Air Force pilots "the best in the world".  In another tweet in 2015, Yeager said "they (PAF pilots) kicked the Indians butt". 

In the 1980s, the Pakistan Air Force pilots went head-to-head with Russian combat pilots in Afghanistan. The Pakistan Air Force (PAF) has the distinction of being the only air force that has engaged and shot down multiple Russian fighter pilots in combat since WWII.  The most prominent among those shot down by PAF was Colonel Alexander Rutskoy who ejected over Pakistani soil and was captured by Pakistan. After his release, Rutskoy was decorated as a hero of the Soviet Union and went onto become vice president of Russia under Boris Yeltsin, before leading an attempted coup in 1993, according to The National Interest publication. 

The aerial battle between Pakistani and Indian fighter jets, which Pakistani officials claim downed five Indian planes, was one of the “largest and longest in recent aviation history,” a senior Pakistani security source told CNN.  Over 100 combat planes battled for over an hour, with neither side leaving its own airspace, according to the CNN source who detailed that the missile exchanges were happening at distances sometimes greater than 160 kilometers (100 miles).  The entire air battle was conducted using BVR (beyond visual range) radars/sensors with stand-off weapons. 

Global militaries and defense analysts are now studying the India-Pakistan aerial battle on May 7, 2025, according to Reuters. Here's an excerpt of the Reuters' report: 

"Experts said the live use of advanced weapons would be analyzed across the world, including in China and the United States which are both preparing for a potential conflict over Taiwan or in the wider Indo-Pacific region. One U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, told Reuters there was high confidence that Pakistan had used the Chinese-made J-10 aircraft to launch air-to-air missiles against Indian fighter jets". 

Here's Prime Minister Modi Speaking of India's Acute Need For Rafale in 2016:

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China's Norinco delivers SH-15 howitzers to Pakistan

https://www.janes.com/defence-intelligence-insights/defence-news/de...

China North Industries Group Corporation Limited (Norinco) delivered the second batch of SH-15 155 mm/52 calibre wheeled self-propelled howitzer (SPH) based on a Shaanxi 6×6 truck to the Pakistan Army.

According to images posted on Chinese social media Weibo, Norinco is seen delivering the second batch of 56 SH-15 howitzers to Pakistan in a ceremony. The SH-15 is an export designation of the PCL-181 155 mm wheeled SPH produced by Norinco.

In 2019, Pakistan signed a contract with Norinco to deliver 236 SH-15s. The first batch was delivered in January 2022. The number of howitzers received in the first batch is not known.

On 23 March 2022, the Pakistan Army unveiled its SH-15 howitzer during the Pakistan Day parade held at the Shakarparian Parade Ground in Islamabad, the country's capital.

According to Janes Land Warfare Platforms: Artillery & Air Defence, the SH-15 weighs 22 tonnes and can attain a maximum speed of 90 km/h on road.

The SPH is armed with a 155 mm L52 howitzer provided with a digital fire-control system (FCS). In addition, the SH-15 features a semi-automatic loader.

According to Norinco, the SH-15 is capable of being deployed in a quick-reaction role in the high-plateau region. Norinco said the SH-15 can fire 4–6 rds/min and has a range of 53 km.

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Pakistan deploys 250 Chinese howitzers along India border; can strike up to 72 km
Pakistan has deployed 250 Chinese-made SH-15 truck-mounted self-propelled howitzers along its border with India in a major boost to its artillery capabilities, top intelligence sources told India Today.


https://www.indiatoday.in/world/story/pakistan-deploys-250-chinese-...


In a big escalation of border militarisation, Pakistan has deployed 250 Chinese-made SH-15 truck-mounted self-propelled howitzers along its border with India in a major boost to its artillery capabilities, top intelligence sources told India Today. According to sources, the Pakistan Army has begun systematically positioning the 155mm artillery systems across key sectors along its eastern frontier with India, stretching from north to south.




According to defence sources, the induction of 250 SH-15 systems is sufficient to equip multiple artillery regiments, significantly strengthening Pakistan's long-range conventional strike capability.
CHINA-PAKISTAN DEFENCE TIES DEEPEN

The latest delivery also highlights the growing defence partnership between Islamabad and Beijing, which has expanded steadily over the past decade. Beyond arms transfers, China and Pakistan have increased joint military exercises aimed at improving interoperability, networked command-and-control capabilities and combined-arms operations.
On Saturday, Pakistan commemorated the 99th anniversary of the founding of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) at the General Headquarters in Rawalpindi. Speaking at the event, Pakistan's Chief of Defence Forces and Chief of the Army Staff, Field Marshal Asim Munir, described the relationship between Pakistan and China as "unique, time-tested, and has remained steadfast in the face of evolving regional and global challenges."
According to Pakistan's Inter-Services Public Relations (ISPR), the ceremony was attended by Chinese Ambassador Jiang Zaidong, China's Defence Attachw Major General Wang Zhong, officials from the Chinese Embassy and senior officers from Pakistan's Army, Navy and Air Force.

Comment by Riaz Haq on September 12, 2026 at 5:53pm

Pakistan Air Force Pilot Highlights How Chinese J-10C Fighters Have Left U.S. F-16s Obsolete

https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/pakistan-air-force-j10c-f...

The F-16 saw its capabilities broadly matched by the Chinese JF-17 fighter in the 2000s, before being surpassed in the early 2020s by the JF-17 Block 3, followed by the more capable J-10C. Both of these two recently procured Chinese fighter types are considered advanced ‘4+ generation’ aircraft which use many of the same avionics and weapons technologies as the J-20 fifth generation fighter. The pilot’s report follows confirmation that the F-16 reportedly constrained during the 2025 India-Pakistan conflict by the limited range of its AIM-120C-5 air-to-air missiles, highlighting a growing disparity between Pakistan’s U.S.-origin fighters and its newer Chinese-supplied combat aircraft. The AIM-120C-5’s approximately 100 kilometre range and ageing seeker compares poorly to the close to 300 kilometre range and modern AESA radar seeker of the Chinese PL-15 missile.

The J-10C’s service entry for the first time provided Pakistani fighter units with a distinct advantage over those in Indian Air Force service, with the aircraft credited with shooting down between one and for Indian Rafale fighters in May 2025. The J-10C’s combat record in Pakistani service was in August cited by Bangladeshi officials as a reason why the fighter type was selected over competing Western aircraft. The victories achieved by Pakistani J-10Cs over Indian Air Force Rafales were far from isolated, with multiple sources having confirmed that the aircraft operated won overwhelming victories in simulated air-to-air engagements against Qatar Emiri Air Force Eurofighters, achieving a 9-0 score during engagements.

China is currently leading the world by close to a decade in sixth generation fighter development, with the prestige of its fighter aviation industry having continued to grow. As the first operator of Chinese ‘4+ generation’ fighters, the Pakistan Air Force has played an important role in demonstrating these advantages to much of the world. The demonstrated capabilities of the J-10C, and Pakistan’s expected procurement of more advanced Chinese fighter types, has placed considerable pressure on the Indian Air Force to further modernise its capabilities, with the procurement of Russian Su-57 fifth generation fighters and S-400 air defence systems having increasingly appeared to be the only near term option to prevent growing Pakistani air dominance. Although less capable than the J-20, the Su-57 is expected to provide an advantage over the J-10C, and could potentially engage more advanced fighters when operating alongside S-400s and other supporting assets.

Comment by Riaz Haq 5 hours ago

Military Channel on Facebook: 88 Hr India Pakistan War in 2025

https://www.facebook.com/themilitarychannelusa/posts/pfbid02ZjFwqcb...

The 88-Hour War between India and Pakistan in May 2025 sent a shockwave through global military command centers. What international observers initially expected to be a traditional border escalation rapidly evolved into one of the most intense, technologically dense air campaigns fought between nuclear-armed rivals in decades.

In less than four days, the conflict dismantled long-standing assumptions about aerial combat. The brief but violent clash demonstrated that traditional visual dogfighting is essentially dead, replaced by ultra-long-range missile duels, aggressive electronic warfare, and massed uncrewed strikes.

Beyond-Visual-Range Supremacy Replaces the Classic Dogfight 🔻

For nearly a century, air forces trained pilots for close-in maneuvering and within-visual-range dogfighting. The 88-Hour War proved that modern fighter jets rarely get close enough to see each other before weapons are launched.

The air battles over the contested border were defined by Beyond-Visual-Range (BVR) missile engagements. Platforms armed with active-radar guided missiles, such as the Meteor and the Chinese-built PL-15, engaged targets from ranges exceeding 100 to 150 kilometers. Pilots relied entirely on sensor data feeds rather than visual tracking. Combat success was determined not by a pilot's physical maneuvering skills, but by who possessed the longest radar reach, the best missile kinematics, and the fastest data processing algorithms.

The Electromagnetic Spectrum as the Primary Battlefield 🔻

Before a single missile left its wing rail, the battle for control of the electromagnetic spectrum was already underway. Both air forces deployed aggressive airborne jamming and electronic countermeasure networks designed to blind adversary radars and disrupt GPS-guided munitions.

High-power electronic attack pods jammed aircraft fire-control radars and ground-based early warning networks. Radar-spoofing techniques created ghost targets on enemy screens, forcing air defense operators to waste expensive interceptors on non-existent threats. Planes operating without integrated electronic warfare suites found themselves completely blind, proving that modern fighters cannot survive in high-intensity combat without robust spectrum defenses.

Drone Swarms and Suppression of Air Defenses 🔻

Another major strategic takeaway was the integration of low-cost uncrewed aerial vehicles to breach heavily defended airspace. Rather than risking billion-dollar manned strike packages against intact surface-to-air missile sites, wave after wave of loitering munitions and attack drones were launched ahead of primary strike packages.

These massed drone swarms forced ground-based air defenses to turn on their search radars, revealing their exact coordinates. Once exposed, the radar arrays were promptly targeted by anti-radiation missiles and standoff precision munitions. Drones also served as expendable target-saturators, forcing air defense batteries to exhaust their interceptor missiles before human-crewed strike aircraft entered the firing envelope.

Ground Infrastructure as Primary High-Value Targets 🔻

The 88-hour conflict highlighted that air superiority is won on the ground as much as in the sky. Long-range standoff cruise missiles, precision artillery rockets, and ballistic missiles targeted airfields, fuel storage bunkers, and hardened aircraft shelters deep within sovereign territory.

By cratering runways and destroying radar control towers early in the conflict, strike packages effectively grounded entire squadrons before they could take off. This reinforced a critical lesson for global air force strategists: expensive, highly advanced stealth fighters are rendered useless if their home runways and refueling hubs are destroyed within the first hours of fighting

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